Update(s) on Ayala Case [UPDATED 4/8]

UPDATED: Click the “More” link below for the most recent updates. This post is getting a little long.

I’ll leave the first post intact and use this one for ongoing updates. Read it first if you don’t know what’s going on with Chris Ayala, the former Boca treasurer.

Someone — apparently not Ayala, but through his Facebook account — posted the following just before 5 p.m. today:

For those of you who have sent INBOX messages, called and im’d Chris about this WHOLE screwed up situation. I will be more than happy to explain everything to you tonight. Text me your number 305.300.1664 and I will call you back. I am trying to setup something to meet everyone, somewhere and explain to you everything I know!

I did text this person and have had a few weird texts back and forth — it’s not clear how much the person knows or is willing to say at this point, or the person’s relation to Ayala, but I’ll continue to pursue it. I haven’t heard back since I explained what the UP is and that I’m a reporter. And that Facebook message (as of 10 p.m.) has been removed.

Ayala’s Facebook profile picture has also been changed from one with him shirtless and with his arms around two scantily-clad girls to one of him in a suit and tie. The photo’s also been deleted; wish I’d had the foresight to take a screenshot.

Here’s what SG Adviser Rivka Felsher had to say.

On how she found out about it: “Students were already buzzing about it. So it was like, ‘Did you see the news?’ And I was like, ‘I’ll take 5 minutes and look.’ And then I was like, ‘Oh, crap.’ I was really, um, surprised.”

And on how she felt about it: “I was, I guess, disappointed and saddened by it, but at the same time I’m right now taking it with a grain of salt. It was a very short article and didn’t have a lot of information. I have no facts about the incident at all, so all I can do is wait and see how things unfold.”

And here’s Boca House rep Jared Stark:

“I know Chris, and he’s a decent guy from what I can tell, but I don’t know him that well,” says Stark. “I have no idea other than what I’ve heard. Obviously it’s a pretty despicable thing if it’s true, but I don’t really know the details and don’t want to comment on that. I just really hope it’s not true.”

Boca Governor Tiffany Weimar was also willing to comment as far as she could, mostly on her working relationship with Ayala:

“As far as his position, he’s done a great job, he really has. We had an event today he’s been working really hard on, tirelessly, and he’s been really amazing,” says Weimar. “As far as everything else goes, it’s really just, pending investigation, I’m not really sure. As far as his personal stuff, whether it’s bad decisions or whatever, I don’t know. It’s disappointing to me and it’s upsetting because he’s a really great guy. We’ll see what happens, how it pans out.”

And as of 11 p.m. most of Ayala’s profile information has been removed. Including the Looking For (i.e., friendships, relationships, etc. for those not Facebook-savvy) and Interested In (i.e., sexual orientation) fields, but also his likes, dislikes, religious views, etc.

I’m not sure how this helps him. In fact, it just looks really sketchy to me. But again, it’s not Ayala doing this — it’s some mystery person with some mystery relationship to Ayala with his account information. Ayala’s currently sitting in a Palm Beach County jail.

That’s it for tonight. I’ll call about the full police report in the morning.

♦♦♦

A couple updates this morning. Most importantly is the fact Ayala has a previous record. You can see here that he was booked in Sept. 2007 for a battery charge. I don’t know the circumstances surrounding this, either, but that police report will probably be easier to get than the current one.

It seems nobody’s paid Ayala’s bond and he’s still sitting in jail as of 10 a.m. this morning. Someone would have to cough up $4500 for that; apparently nobody has. The UP is planning to try to visit him tomorrow if he’s still in. If he wants to talk to us, we’ll get his side of the story.

Also, the Boca House gave an oblique statement about the Ayala case on their Facebook group:

On light of recent news that was released today in the press, FAU SGA was mentioned. If you are unaware of the topic- that is a good thing, it is not positive news. If you are aware, I speak on behalf of all FAU SGA in saying that we do not condone that behavior, and we wish all parties involved the best in the coming weeks.

Yeah, that’s it. But they did get up last week’s meeting minutes, which is what I’d be posting about if this situation hadn’t come up. And on that note, if you’re wondering about the governor races in the midst of this, the election board dismissed the complaints from the Jupiter candidates yesterday. No word on if they’re appealing to the student court as happened in the presidential race. If so, I suppose this could drag the election out the rest of the semester.

I would advise my previous commenter(s) to be aware that Ayala is not considered a sex offender at this point. He’s been charged, not convicted. This case is just getting started and there won’t even be a court hearing until May 4. Please don’t spread rumors. You’re entitled to your opinion, but I hope you’ll have a fair and respectful one.

If you know or have worked with Ayala and would like to comment on the record, e-mail me. I may not get to you today because I have a paper to finish writing, but this is something we’ll be covering in next week’s issue and in weeks to come.

78 Responses to “Update(s) on Ayala Case [UPDATED 4/8]”

  1. Nicolas Says:

    HES 23 AND SHE IS 13!!!!!!!!! I HOPE THIS GUY GETS THE BOOK THROW AT HIM. HES THE DEFINITION OF A LOSER, I DONT CARE WHAT HE HAS TO SAY, THIS GUYS SICK. IF YOU INFACT ARE GUILTY OF THIS CHRIS YOU DESERVE BEING LABLED A SEX OFFENDER AND ALL OF THE HARDSHIPS THAT YOU WILL FACE FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE BECAUSE OF IT

  2. The article says he asked her to wear her cheerleading outfit. Even if she said she was 16 he’s STILL 23!

  3. How can anyone say what a great guy he is?! He’s a SEX OFFENDER! Would you leave him your sister? Why doesn’t Student Government do background checks or something on these people?!

  4. Anyonymous Says:

    When did Student Government become the Catholic Church?

  5. Settle down Says:

    How would a background check help in this case? did he have prior convictions? doubt it.
    also, 16 would be legal in florida for a 23 year old. Deal with it, it’s the law, not your guess.

  6. Man of Law Says:

    The law only applies to how old she IS and not how old SHE SAID SHE WAS. this is taken directly from the florida statute under which Mr. Ayala is being charged

    “(3) IGNORANCE OR BELIEF OF VICTIM’S AGE.–The perpetrator’s ignorance of the victim’s age, the victim’s misrepresentation of his or her age, or the perpetrator’s bona fide belief of the victim’s age cannot be raised as a defense in a prosecution under this section.”

    For those interested, According to Florida Statute and the Florida criminal punishment code, Ayala faces up to 15 years maximum in prison and or a maximum $10,000 fine. I do know hes being charged with 3 counts of the same charge so i dont know how that would change the sentencing structure if at all, its really up to the judge at the end of the day, the state gives alot of to the discretion judges in most felony cases.

    On a personal note, as far as im concerned once you hit 19 or 20 years of age you need to treat these situations like a gas station carding for cigs or booze, if she looks too young chances are she probably is and it wouldnt hurt to cover your own ass a little. as far as background checks, they wouldnt have helped a bit unless like “settle down” said he had done this before. I cant believe our future student body president not only pals around with this flaming bag of douche, but still considers him, and i quote, “a really great guy”.
    I hope he cant make bail and continues to rot it PBC jail until hes arraigned.

  7. The fact that anyone would pal around with a sex offender and much less defend him is reprehensible to me especially if she is the sg president. But then again greeks stick together right?

  8. Brandon as far as im concerned, Ayala and all others like him in similar situations are guilty until proven innocent. sex offenders are the lowest of the low and i only hope the judge gives him jail time if hes found guilty.

  9. tiffany should NOT have commented on this….

  10. give me a break Says:

    This is bullsh*t….Some tramp lies about her age and has sex with someone older- and now it’s his fault? Do we really need to start carding the people we are having relationships with? What ever happened to the honor system? What ever happened to parents knowing where their kids are and educating them about sex? The parents are to blame in this situation- you should never let your kid go door to door selling anything- and should know where your kids are at all times- 13 years old- wow- these parents should be ashamed of themselves! I know Chris personally and know that he is a great kid with a great heart. Knowingly he would never do something like this. Society is so messed up and distorted that we now have to ID our dates because people misrepresent themselves. In my eyes he has done nothing wrong- he is not a sex offender- the girl is a liar- and shouldn’t have been soliciting herself. I pray that the judge see’s all of the facts in the situation and not just the age. Chris shouldn’t be punished nor should he have to wear a scarlet letter, for the rest of his life because of someone elses dishonesty. Think about it……

    FREE AYALA!

  11. Man of Law Says:

    considering if what we know is true, i dont believe Chris has a leg to stand on.

    I agree with “give me a break” in these cases;
    Yes the girls a tramp and lied about her age.
    Yes the parents can take some blame for this.
    Society has forced us to card our significant others.
    Yes i believe chris most likely would not have done this knowing she was 13, but i cannot say for certain, nobody can.

    Unfortunately our society has lost its morals throughout the past few decades, and slowly but surely we have gotten to the point where the victims are seeking to be victimized, sometimes by people, like Ayala, who would not go looking for someone that young usually. The fact is that you cant protect the ones who actually are innocent victims without protecting these tramps in training for the mere fact that they’re too young to decided for themselves in the eyes of the law. and thats the kicker, in the eyes of the law, Ayala will be forced to dawn the scarlet letter because he was supposed to be the responsible adult in the situation and wasnt, instead he was careless by only asking and not ensuring of her age. We dont need to card everyone we come into contact with, i think u know thats a little extreme and i also think that if I were put in the same situation as Chris (Disclaimer: i would never engage in sexual activity with someone even as young as 16, for the record) i would have asked for ID for the mere reason that it looks close and if she was lying im fucked. i believe chris rock says something about this in a song, something about if she looks 16 and says shes 18 shes probably 12. nowadays thats the truth. I dont think this is fair for chris i will say that but he still is not free of wrong doing and he should pay for his crimes if he is guilty, children need to be protected bottom line. I will say statistically in similar cases like this, the outcome seems to not favor chris.

  12. please dont defend ayala…..this man cant tell 18 from 13? how is he in college, and he went around door to door with her softball??? umm….like he didnt realize that hes like fundraising for a middle school or little league????? wow….cmon. this is so low, even 16, just find someone whos 18 for crying out loud….unbelievabe. and tiff hired him, and then defended him? for the record, he sucked as treasurer, and hes greek, just so bad for FAU all together….omg.

  13. give me a break Says:

    How many 13 year olds are walking around scantily clad with fake ids? It’s so disgusting how society has become. This is the United States of America- you are innocent until proven guilty- come on people! Yes- I’m sure the girl looked younger then his age and I’m sure that he could ahve been wiser- but I know so many of us wouldn’t have thought twice. If you tell me you’re 16- you’re 16. In the state of Florida- that is legal. I think as many of as a possible need to defend Ayala. What happens if it was you in the situation? It’s one thing if he knew her age and willingly had sex with her- we can’t punish someone for someone else’s dishonesty. Just think about the situation…..NOT FAIR!

  14. give me a break Says:

    Children need to be protected- I totally agree…….so where were this little tramps parents? Not protecting her!!!!!! Now they want to cry and want Chris to be punished? I think this is way too harsh! I think the parents should be punished for letting their child run free without supervision. I swear some people should have to hold a license before they are allowed to become parents!!!!!!!

  15. HE HAD SEX WITH A 13 YEAR OLD! NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT! EVEN IF SHE LIED HE IS STILL AN ADULT!!!!!
    FOR THAT MATTER A 23 YEAR OLD HAVING SEX WITH A 16 YEAR OLD IS GROSS EVEN IF IT’S LEGAL BUT GUESS WHAT SHE WASN’T 16 SHE WAS 13! CAN SOMEONE SAY DATELINE?

  16. give me a break Says:

    YES- BUT HE WAS DECEIVED? I AM SURE HE IS DEVASTATED HIMSELF….BUT HE WAS DECEIVED….SO HOW IS THIS HIS FAULT? YES- THERE ARE PRECUATIONS HE COULD HAVE TAKEN- I.E REQUESTING AN ID VERIFICATION IN ORDER TO DETERMINE HER TRUE AGE- BUT LET’S BE HONEST- WHO DOES THAT? SOMEONE’S DECEIT SHOULD NOT RUIN HIS LIFE…..PUT YOURSELF IN HIS SHOES- AND DON’T BE “HOLIER THAN THOU”- ANYONE COULD BE DECEIVED….

  17. I don’t bang teenagers. Trust me! Even if he was deceived and really thought she was 16 that’s gross. The fact is that she wasn’t 16 she was 13. He was really really stupid…and nasty…c’mon wearing her cheerleader outfit?!

  18. Man of Law Says:

    i think there should be different punishments for people who were deceived like chris was as long as the girl admits to deceiving him. but i still feel he should be punished with jail time and a fine. this was wrong and even if she did say she was 16 its still too close to 15. I remember being that age and selling the same fundraisers for my highschool door 2 door. everyone does it in HS if you played a sport. and i also remember when i was 15 if i came to a door with a good looking college chick who was comming on to me i wudda told her i was 16 or 17 faster and jumped into bed with her faster than a speeding bullet, wouldnt you? put yourself in her shoes and “try to be holier than thou”.

  19. Man of Law Says:

    *”try not to be holier than thou” typo sorry.

  20. give me a break Says:

    i agree with man of law in the respect that there should be two types of punishments. i agree that he should be punished in some respect but not punished as a sex offender and have to live with that for the rest of his life. i am sure he feels disgusting as it is- so a fine and a short jail sentence is more than enough. my heart goes out to him- i know Chris and he really is a good person….

  21. Tiffany?

  22. whatajoke Says:

    Pike: Therapist fraternity? Oh my bad. It’s The rapist.
    Christopher Ayala is a Pike. Now we know how Pikes get girls, they get em while they’re 13!!! So you know, the term: If there’s grass on the field, play ball! Refers to baseball. Not 13 year olds you sick fucks. …

    Clearly the interaction recorded shows what kind of scum bag Chris is. Pike would never do background checks; they love kids like this. Kids who rape and start fights. Great bunch of guys!

  23. tommyGUNN Says:

    Just an update because i know Brandon was following this, it seems as though Ayala has deleted his facebook.

  24. FAU Student Says:

    According the the FAU Greek roster Chris has never been a Pike at Florida Atlantic University. He was listed as pledging and never became an active brother.

  25. tommyGUNN Says:

    Interesting, i do know that Pi Kappa Alpha was listed under his activities on his facebook, i had also heard that he was a brother, thank you for clearing that up. i wouldnt want Pikes having an even worse reputation when they dont deserve it

  26. That’s definitely not true. Even if they weren’t putting him on the roster, he was as much of a brother as any. There are pictures of him wearing letters and at formals.

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  28. I know Ayala quite well, he’s a goofy, fun loving guy and a genuinely good friend and great person. If he had known the girl was 13, I know he would never have had sexual relation with her. The Florida law clearly states that a person who is 23 can have consentual sex with someone who is 16 years of age. If the girl had not lied about her age, he would not be in the situation he now faces. The fact that the law allows this age gap means that lawmakers seem to think it is acceptable, even if society as a whole does not agree. These people that are attacking Ayala and anyone who “would pal around with a sex offender” are clearly ignorant, do not know Chris Ayala, know very minimal amounts of information on this case and need to check their own morals and standards that they set for themselves, perhaps freshing up on constitutional rights which state that all men are innocent until proven guilty. My heart goes out for Ayala right now, as I know he is a great person who made a terrible mistake. This whole thing sickens me, and I think that this shows a complete flaw in our justice system.

  29. Nicolas Says:

    Amanda i will respectfully ask you, or anyone else who would like to give this a shot, to explain to me how ayala explains this to the judge, who is bound by the law, which ayala clearly and admittedly broke.

    i want to recall what man of law found in florida statute:
    “(3) IGNORANCE OR BELIEF OF VICTIM’S AGE.–The perpetrator’s ignorance of the victim’s age, the victim’s misrepresentation of his or her age, or the perpetrator’s bona fide belief of the victim’s age cannot be raised as a defense in a prosecution under this section.”

    I believe ayala was lied to as the girls already admitted to it. but unfortunatly that dosnt matter because of whats states above.

    Theres 2 ways you usually handle something like this (Criminal procedings), you deny anything happened, roll the dice, and hope their evidence dosnt outweigh your alibi. or you play ball with the prosecution and hope for some sort of a deal or reduction. unfortunatly ayala opened his mouth and admitted to having sex with her, so a denial defense is out of the picture. his explanation for why he did it is not allowable by law. there would have to be a miricle, and i mean water into wine, walk on water, pigs flying type of shit for ayala to get off scott-free. BEST case scenario (unless theres minimum sentencing guidlines for the laws he broke, and to my knowledge there isnt) judge takes pitty on ayala, still has to find him guilty because he already admitted to it (unless the confession is thrown out) but gives him no jail time but what hes serving as we type and no fine but the thousands hes going to be spending on a lawyer but still has to register as a sex offender. that being said, i think we all have a better chance of seeing it snow here in boca tonite than ayala does at getting that lucky.

    all of my feelings aside about what ayala did, i dont think he walks away from this happy at all because the fact of the matter is he broke the law, already admitted to it, and his explanation for why he did it isnt admissible in a court of law in this state.

  30. Nicolas Says:

    just as a side note, this was taken from the PBpost article;

    “According to police, the girl told Ayala she was 16-years-old, to which he replied, “she needed to be 18 years old to play, but that he would make an exception in her case.””

    uh if this above statement is true, then ayala didnt know that her being 16 was legal, he thought it was illegal and that she needed to be 18 to “play” . in other words in ayala’s own mind he was faced with this decision, 16-illegal i should walk away, 18-legal and go for it, he made a choice and chose illegal, he had a chose right or wrong moment and he chose wrong, even though he was not up to date with the current consensual sex laws, his intent and the judgement of his thinking was im going to break a law. Im sure theres a better way or more technical way to describe this but thats the best i could do and i hope you get what im saying

  31. UM…HELLOOOOO…HE BANGED A 13 YEAR OLD!!! WHETHER HE THOUGHT SHE WAS 16 (WHICH IS NASTY!) OR NOT IS IRRELEVANT. STOP DEFENDING THIS GUY! HE WAS AN ADULT AND BROKE THE LAW!!!

  32. In addition to that, this isn’t a “nice” guy. He already has a criminal record. I doubt anyone is taking it easy on him. You’re right – there is this idea of presumption of innocence- that is pretty difficult to accept when there is a full admission of guilt to three different counts!!! On top of that, presumption of innocence exists in a court room. In the court of public or personal opinion, we have the right to make our own decisions. The guy admitted to banging a 13 year old. Had she been 16 and been my sister, he would have been lucky if the police got to him before I did.

  33. Richard Says:

    Man, a lot of anger from people who didn’t even know the guy or girl. I don’t know either of them but it’s really more a sad situation that if true, someone with many opportunities in life made a mistake and now has to face the consequences. Everyone with such harsh things to say about “presumed innocence” should remember that in today’s day and age of lackluster reporting it’s best to not take everything at face value, especially when all you are going on is a very brief palm beach post article. This is why we live in a country that says innocent until proved guilty, not a country that says guilty if a report is thrown into a newspaper.

    Also remember that everyone makes mistakes, we aren’t talking about a serial rapist here. It is quite possible to have high morals and ethics yet fail to live up to them all the time.

  34. Not just the PBpost article but also remember what brandon confirmed for us.
    “Yesterday I filed for the police reports describing the incidents and this morning they were ready so I picked them up about an hour ago. Names and locations are redacted (i.e. crossed out and unreadable to protect identities), but I can confirm what Kim Miller reported in the Palm Beach Post on Tuesday. 13-year-old who claimed to be 16, the cheerleading outfit, three times, all consensual.”

    now we also have a police report to go on. and the fact ayala admitted to it. id say we have all we need to make an opinion rich

  35. Nicolas,

    True – you can confirm some things from the report like you said but really without all the info no one can convict him here. Thats why it’s innocent until proven guilty and why we have a legal system. Did the police report say he admitted to it? I didn’t see that in Brandon’s update. Maybe he did, I don’t know. The other thing that struck me as ambiguous when reading the PBP article was:

    “According to police, the girl told Ayala she was 16-years-old, to which he replied, “she needed to be 18 years old to play, but that he would make an exception in her case.””

    Again, the way this article was written who said that Christopher said this? You could interpret this as him admitting to everything and telling the Police thats what he said, you could also interpret it as the girl telling that to the Police. I’m just saying none of us are perfect and there is a lot of jumping to conclusions and harsh words thrown around here.

  36. All,

    I’ll scan the police report and post it in a few minutes. This should clarify a few things, but I’ll still leave you to draw your own conclusions.

    Cheers,
    Brandon.

  37. […] If you’re new to the whole issue, start here and find more updates here and here. For those anxious to see the police report, I’ve scanned the three pages of it. I […]

  38. read the police report, i just did and i need to go throw up. you tell me if you still want to stand up for this guy after you read it rich.

  39. Yep, I just read it too and it doesn’t bode well for him. But I never said I wanted to stand up for him, actually I said I don’t know him at all. What I said was that before everyone crucifies him they need to remember “innocent until proven guilty”. Actually reading that report validates what I said about interpreting news articles. Everyone was sure that he made the comment “you have to be 18 to play” however the police report never directly says this and actually sounds more like its what she said to the police. We also don’t know how that phone conversation went. Again thats why we have trials for a judge or jury to listen to the recorded audio.

    Again, I never said I’m standing up for him what I said was to be fair and some of the others need to tone down the hateful comments :\

    But it doesn’t sound good from reading the report.

  40. page 1, lines 7, 8, and 9 all deal with being “you have to be 18 to play” the police are saying it that statement that ayala said this to the girl

  41. ayala “lawyerd up” as they say, which was a smartest move hes made yet may i add. he hasnt said shit to the police so all we have is the sworn police statement

  42. Nicolas, yes I read that as well. But like I said that is the girl’s statement to the police. Nothing says he admitted anything to the police. If he had why would they have needed her to call him and get him to admit things on the phone?

    Again not defending anyone :)

  43. u just said it yourself. he admitted it on the phone already police heard this, police are officers of the court. it was their sworn testimony that this happend.

    i appreciate you staying up and discussing. :)

  44. Well the report says that he admitted it on the phone, but I don’t know how that conversation went or if he was trapped into anything. So I’d say a big factor in if he is convicted is how that phone conversation plays back for a judge or jury. I mean we are both playing devils advocate here right? If I were one of his friends one of the things I would be asking is “this girl has a therapist that she’s going to at 13 and talking about her sexual relationships? Any chance she has a history of lying or other issues?”

    Ok now I am off to bed :)

  45. very good point, why is she seeing a therapist about her sex life at this young? why also did that fone call have something to do with impregnating or abortion? is this true or was that a set up for him to admit to having sex with her. i dont think shes lying, thats going a little too far i believe, we do have ayala on tape admitting to intercourse and plotting a way for her to get and abortion because he feared jailtime.

    im off to bed also, til morning then.

  46. This is why I swear by older women.

    I’d like to thank Richard for his insightful comments.

    There have been alot of rude and poorly written comments on here; But I must say that the comment that Ayala and others that are accused of similar crimes are “guilty until proven innocent” is beyond tasteless/thoughtless. All of the cowboys are dead asshole. The last one died in 1972.

    Besides, who the fuck are you to judge anyone? It’s not like you’re perfect.

    You all should keep your ignorant statements to yourself and allow his jury to decide his fate.

    P.S.

    Quit shitting on PIKES and Tiffany for this. Some people will twist anything into justifying a prior concieved perception. You all are beyond class-less!

  47. I love my first amendment rights just as much as you. unfortunately, as a member of the court of public opinion, i have no power to sentence ayala, but boy i wish i did. I can however, along with everyone whos joined me, say anything i damn well wish about this dickweed, he put himself in this situation and thus deserves ALL criticism. If i was out there messin around with 13 yr olds (whom in ayalas defense, I thought were 16) and got caught id expect the same comments out of the public,

    fact is dan Pikes have a reputation for doing thing like this (but never as far or serrious as this) so the cheap shots will keep commin.
    no not all pikes are like this, but this guy happens to be 1. no im not perfect dan, none of us are, but im also not facing child sex charges so i’ll keep judging the shit out of this guy.

    in all honesty and seriousness, if chris haddnt been a member of SG, and if i had any shaddow of a doubt that chris wasnt guilty or could in some way walk away from this, i would not be so hard on him but as far as i can see chris is walkin into a poker game hes already lost, very little evidence is needed to get a conviction in a case like this and i think the prosecution has more than enough and all they’re gunna get.

    And the saddest part is that ever if he does emerge from this unharmed (highly unlikely may i add) his life will still never be the same, he wont be able to return to FAU, This guys fucked seven ways to sunday and i can get up here and sling as much shit as i want at him, which i will keep doing because he did this to himself, but it wont make much of a difference he’ll have his day and justice will be served

    P.S.
    Dan im sorry that your expecting flawless posts on a Blog, no1 cares about grammar punctuation spelling none of that shit on here its a damn website not an 10 page English paper, so excues me if i spend so little time correcting my posts, as long as you get the point of what im saying who cares, nobody on here (with the exception of you) is going to post like their writing a paper, give us a break, you may have that kind of time on your hands but we havnt graduated yet and have finals coming up. IE. more important shit thn this bullshit.

  48. Nicolas – wow, you said everything that I wanted to say… except to Dan. If you are going to claim how poorly written some posts are, you may want to have perfect grammar yourself. After using a semicolon, you are not supposed to capitalize the next word. Just thought you should know, you flaming pile of dogshit.

  49. Super Student Says:

    Remeber all the crap that used to go on in sg? I think it’s really interesting how the same people who bitched about corruption (and I’m not saying there wasn’t corruption) are defending their guy who banged a 13 year old! Guess it’s all well and good when its your guy.

  50. Anonymous Says:

    Honestly I know Chris Ayala, have for years, I’m an alumni of Pi Kappa Alpha as well and am deeply saddened to hear about this. First and foremost, if the allegations are true than he absolutely deserves to be punished to the full extent of the law, period. However, I do think it is ridiculous for people that have never met him are so angry and anxious to join this apparent lynch mob that is forming. This is going to go to trial and when a verdict is read we can start calling names and being vehemently angry about the situation, right now is not the time because the facts are not out yet, it is all hearsay and accusations right now.

    The worst part of all in my book deals nothing with Chris Ayala the man, it deals with people trying to use this incident and this forum as a way to get on a soapbox and denounce a Fraternity as a whole because of the actions of one man who pledged and never actually participated as an active brother EVER. It’s obviously someone in SigEp or Sammy who above is calling Pike’s rapists, scumbags, and losers because one guy who spent 8 weeks trying to become a Pike made a mistake 4 years later. If you want to be pissed at what Ayala did then fine, I understand that and am angry as well. It is absolutely and inherently unfair to label 60-100 other men who have never been in any legal trouble and do their best to be positive members of the community in the same way. Every single Greek organization has people that tried to get in and didn’t, or got through pledging and then never participated in the organization…and I’m sure if you were to look at all of those people and everything they did subsequently after leaving (or not making it into) Greek life not all of them would be angels…but you can’t label the group that he wasn’t actually a part of just because you want to make them look bad. Pretty standard SigEp maneuver though…I’m looking forward to seeing justice carried out, in whatever shape or form that may be.

  51. This isn’t about Sammy or Sigep. Attempting to accuse either organization of bias is a flawed argument because Pikes do the same thing. (labeling the fraternity based on the actions of one person) Don’t claim to be any holier than thou. Chris was and is a Pike. Pikes have admitted it on this forum. Trying to claim that he wasn’t a Pike is a complete lie. That shows how deep your brotherhood runs. Instead of accepting responsibility for the situation you claim that he was never a Pike. That’s pretty low. What’s that you always say – once a pike always a pike? Its all bullshit to me.

  52. what a joke, i find it funny how much you know about pike, when did u get kicked out?

  53. a while back, I refused to subject myself to blowing our alumni which was considered conduct unbecoming of a brother. Its cool though, I still got to keep my “tug this” shirt. Sweet.

  54. a close friend Says:

    none of you know Ayala, i don’t care if he broke the law, or if what he did seems horrible, it was a huge mistake, and if it was your brother or sister, or your mom or your cousin, you would sure as hell be defending them, just like many of us are

  55. um…READ THE POLICE REPORT B4 YOU SAY THAT! GO BAIL HIM OUT IF YOU’RE SO CONCERNED.

  56. Dan, do me two favors please —

    1) Take your head out of Tiffany’s asshole.

    2) Shut your ass the fuck up.

    Thank you.

  57. a close friend Says:

    hey frankfurt, shut up retard

  58. very mature. tiffany?

  59. actually, Frank makes a really great point. All of you Ayala supporters, chris’ bail is only $4,500 which is not pocket change by any means but its definitely possible to come up with that much if enough of you pull together, consider this, if all of Ayala’s frat brothers pull together and chip in $20-$25 for him your already halfway there.
    So i ask you now, are you guys trying to bail him out? and if you had $4,500 of your personal money laying around would you bail him out? remember if chris is found guilty you dont get that money back… put you money where your mouth is guys, if you really cared and wanted ayala to be out of jail and believed in his innocence you should have been getting organized and taking donations to get your “friend” out. People who are incarcerated for what Ayala is in for right now are treated like lepers, in other words, Ayala better not drop the soap.

  60. Looks like he was Pike but now hes’ pledging Lambda!

  61. All you Ayala defenders need to read the police report (where he admits to diong some nasty stuff!) before defending this guy!

  62. Actually, his bond is set at $45,000 not $4,500. Each charge carries a $15,000 bond. (three charges).

    And for the record, you DO get your bail money back as long as he shows up to court. You don’t lose it if he’s guilty. You only lose it it he jumps bail (doesn’t show up to court)

  63. all you need is 10% for a bail bondsman, its obviously the easier than posting $45,000. and i stand corrected on getting your money back. but all the more reason to go bail him out if you think hes such a “great guy”

  64. FAU Senior Says:

    I think the mature thing for all of you to do is what and see what happens and not spend every moment watching this ridiculous blog and jumping at every opportunity to stir the drama and exploit Chris and his related organizations. This includes the “journalist” of this blog and the “reporter” for OwlTV who asked students around campus “What do you think about our FAU Student Government Treasurer caught sleeping with a 13 year old?”. Of course, people will say “eww, gross, etc” Why didn’t she say “What do you think about our FAU Student Government Treasurer being arrested for having sex with a girl he thought was 16, that turned out to be 13?” This wouldnt have made for the “good, dramatic” responses she was looking for. The people on this blog make me sick. Shouldn’t you all obsessed drama queens (Nicolas, Dan, Richard, whatajoke, and more) have finals to be studying for?
    I would also like to add that Chris and his actions should be seperated from SG and Pike. Neither organizations deserve the bullshit you people like to stir.

  65. Dans an alum, and had proved time and time again he has nothing else to do but post here. me, i need a break from studying and writing papers every now and then, this is a nice topic to get the blood raging through my body and enabling me to carry on through the night. All you dickweeds who keep begging ur to settle down need to be reminded of 1 thing, WE DIDNT ASK AYALA TO DO THIS SO WE’D HAVE SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT. he did it himself, and when u stoop this low your bound to catch some shit. We are those shit throwers.

  66. Not to “out” anyone here, but Dan is likely Dan Alexander; an odd, rather grouchy alumni with too much free time and a penchant for complaining.

  67. Ha ha ha!

    I love your attention!

    It’s funny that people make comments that I “have no (personal) life” because I make comments on here. You should be so hard on yourself Nick. Ligthen up. Poorly written does not necessarily mean poor grammar and poor spelling. It’s obvious that your conventions are horrible; I don’t need to point that out; your writting does that.

    Guilt by association is ok? I mean, you’re saying what one Pike does they all do, right? That is what you’re saying? Well then, people call FAU students retards that can’t hack it in “real” universities, so I guess (according to your logic), you are a retard. Actually, I think, at least in your case, you might be onto something.

    Let Chris be judged by a jury that has access to all the evidence. Quit talking shit about Pikes as a whole just because one guy made a really bad decision. Stop harassing people that don’t have something overtly negative or judgmental to say about Chris.

    Personally, I don’t give two squirts of piss about Tiffany, and I won’t say so again.

    I guess what Im trying to say is; If you insist on sharing your opinions, try and remember that people associated FAU with your comments, and quite frankly you’re making FAU (presents students and alumni) look bad.

    If you wanted to, I’m sure you can find something profound or insightful to say. But, please don’t hurt yourself trying.

    PS

    When you write about me, it makes me feel warm to know you care enough to think about me. Yes Nico, I’m no hypocrite. I love your tri-somy 21 ass and you know it. Yea!!!!

  68. That goes for whoeverthefuck TJ and WOW are as well.

    I can’t wait for the comment about my comments. English majors love irony, and your hypocracy brings me so much joy.

    Kisses.

    =)

  69. so if FAU students are retards who can hack it at real universities, and your an FAU alum… see where im going with this. everything you’ve ever posted on here has just lost any ounce of dignity it had, you just called yourself, or admitted to being a retard. that speaks for its-self. now its possible that Im not the most intelligent thing walking around gods green earth, but id never admit to being anything less. ever.

    and dan. all bullshit aside, i could only hope that one day you find whatever it is things like you mate with, and conceive a child, that it turns out to have down’s syndrome. because after that “trisomy 21″ comment it only further proves my point of how much of a dickweed you are. that sir would be irony, poetic justice.

  70. BANGING UNDERAGE GIRLS IS NOT COOL WHETHER THEY’RE 16 OR 13. THAT IS ALL!

  71. Nick, all you did was repeat what I wrote. You make downs kids look smart. You might as well write, “I love chocolate” over and over again (it would make more sense).

    Let us make amends. Tell you what; I’ll sign up to be a hugger with you, unless your heart is set on participating. In that case, I’ll hug you.

    Let me know.

    Your Friend,

    -d.

  72. In case any1 missed it, Dan just called himself a retard, i pointed that out for him (in case he missed it), and he confirmed to me that he ment to and knew he had. I think that speaks for its-self. Dan i get more out of talking to a rock than i do talking to you, all you ever have to say is, blah blah blah something about eating shit blah blah im an alum with no life blah blah (insert rude sarcastic comment here) blah.
    its always the same. And to suggest i just repeated what you said is ludicrous, it suggests that i somewhat agree with you in some way, so let me clear up the rumors, I in no way agree with anything Dan has ever posted, in fact it would be easier to just take the opposite of what dan says as my opinion on the matter. I know you get confused easily dan but thats the best i can do.

  73. Hey good job guys, you managed to take a serious issue and turn it into fecalfelia. Keep this on topic and stop being so petty.

  74. Anonymous Says:
    April 10, 2009 at 11:43 am

    Honestly I know Chris Ayala, have for years, I’m an alumni of Pi Kappa Alpha as well and am deeply saddened to hear about this. First and foremost, if the allegations are true than he absolutely deserves to be punished to the full extent of the law, period. However, I do think it is ridiculous for people that have never met him are so angry and anxious to join this apparent lynch mob that is forming. This is going to go to trial and when a verdict is read we can start calling names and being vehemently angry about the situation, right now is not the time because the facts are not out yet, it is all hearsay and accusations right now.

    The worst part of all in my book deals nothing with Chris Ayala the man, it deals with people trying to use this incident and this forum as a way to get on a soapbox and denounce a Fraternity as a whole because of the actions of one man who pledged and never actually participated as an active brother EVER. It’s obviously someone in SigEp or Sammy who above is calling Pike’s rapists, scumbags, and losers because one guy who spent 8 weeks trying to become a Pike made a mistake 4 years later. If you want to be pissed at what Ayala did then fine, I understand that and am angry as well. It is absolutely and inherently unfair to label 60-100 other men who have never been in any legal trouble and do their best to be positive members of the community in the same way. Every single Greek organization has people that tried to get in and didn’t, or got through pledging and then never participated in the organization…and I’m sure if you were to look at all of those people and everything they did subsequently after leaving (or not making it into) Greek life not all of them would be angels…but you can’t label the group that he wasn’t actually a part of just because you want to make them look bad. Pretty standard SigEp maneuver though…I’m looking forward to seeing justice carried out, in whatever shape or form that may be.

    ———————————————————————-

    The comments that I have made parallel the spirit of this post (above).

    The post below (and ones like it) are what I am/was arguing against.

    ——————————————————–

    whatajoke Says:
    April 8, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Pike: Therapist fraternity? Oh my bad. It’s The rapist.
    Christopher Ayala is a Pike. Now we know how Pikes get girls, they get em while they’re 13!!! So you know, the term: If there’s grass on the field, play ball! Refers to baseball. Not 13 year olds you sick fucks. …

    Clearly the interaction recorded shows what kind of scum bag Chris is. Pike would never do background checks; they love kids like this. Kids who rape and start fights. Great bunch of guys!

    ————————-

    People on here (Nicolas, WOW, Whatajoke, etc.) are trying to demonize all PIKES for what one person did. I believe someone wrote, “if the shoe fits” (meaning if one PIKE has done something like this than they all do something like this). This, in my opinion, is beyond absurd.

    Also, a couple of other people on here have demonized those who have reserved their judgment of Chris and have left this job to his (Chris’s) jury.

    First off, anyone who takes Dobson’s basic logic class knows that the statement, “What is true for the part must be true for the whole” is a fallacy. By that I mean, just because one PIKE brother did a shitty thing does not mean that all (or even most) PIKE brothers are shitty people. I am friends with many PIKEs and have known most of them to be complete gentlemen. You have the right to disagree, but when you do so publicly and in an unintelligent way (illogical) you make all FAU students look bad. This is why I equated Nicolas’s comment with saying that the label that other universities (Find Another University) have given us (like those labels that have been placed upon the PIKEs) must (by his logic) be true. In other words, if Nicolas’s logic is correct, than what other universities say about FAU must then also be true. BTW, I wasn’t making fun of retarded people by claiming that you are as smart as one. Do you think that I am insulting retarded people by equating them to you?

    The second thing that I was trying to say was that those people whom are demonizing others for reserving their judgment (at least publicly) of Chris should remember that they themselves are not perfect, nor do they have all the facts. All that they have are a few sheets of second and third hand accounts.

    I personally feel that Chris exercised some extremely bad judgment. I believe that he ought to receive punishment and/or treatment if these allegations turn out to be valid. However, since I do not know all of the facts of the case it would be imprudent and ignorant of me to stand up “on a soapbox” and preach about what ought to happen.

    I would never tell anyone (even Nicolas) that they can or cannot comment on here; but, this website is affiliated with FAU and therefore so are the ideas espoused in this blog. I read the posts about Chris and shake my head. If a majority of the comments are nasty and poorly written (logic not conventions) then I consider that people whom visit this site may make the same logical mistake that Nicolas made and equate all of FAU students as unintelligent angst riddled snobs.

    I just don’t want FAU (or its student body) looking any worse than it already does. So, if you’re going to make comments, please remember that there are people out there (in the internet ether) making judgments about FAU based upon what we say/write on here. Maybe I should have had better tact than to say that Nicolas suffered from tri-somy 21, and for that I apologize. I allowed myself to sink to someone else’s level and for that, I humbly apologize.

    -d.

    PS
    I know that I am smarter than you. Would you like to know why? I am smarter than you because I can admit that we do not know anything; and therefore should not be making comments in such a manner that would have a negative impact on our university. The moment you admit your ignorance you will become enlightened.

    PSPS
    I was serious about signing up to be a “hugger”. I might do it even if you won’t. Who is coming with me?

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